INDONESIA BLOG: TRADITIONAL VS CHARISMATIC CHURCH ( 2 )

In the first chapter I review about the people from charismatic church said that traditional church doesn't have Holy Spirit. It's a big mistake to accuse traditional church which is aged more than a century ( even older than the age of Indonesia ) which had a great share in spreading the Gospel in Indonesia ( even before charismatic movement circulate in Indonesia) as a church without Holy Spirit.

But obviously in traditional church itself is found a fatal mistake, in which many people of traditional church regards charismatic as

- IT IS COME FROM SATAN, NOT FROM HOLY SPIRIT

Well, if it is come from Satan, how come Satan drive out Satan? Such as said

Luk 11:15 GNB :
" But some of the people said ". It is Beelzebul, the chief of the demons,
who gives him the power to drive them out".

And Jesus answered

Luk 11:18-19 GNB :
" So if satan's kingdom has groups fighting each other, how can it last? You say that I drive out demons because Beelzebul gives me the power to do so. If this is how I drive them out, how do your followers drive them out? Your own followers prove that you are wrong!"

Well, it's clear, right? Is the traditional church people accusation same with the Pharisee accusation to Jesus, precisely? How come we could find similarity? Isn't that exciting? The accusation from 2000 years ago heard again 2000 years later. There are some accusations from traditional church say:

'A strange tongue in charismatic church comes from Satan'.

Has this people ever read the Bible or not? No, no..... Don't read the Bible of Jude or Barnabas Gospel which is made a fuss by Lucifer follower and our opposition brother. You are wrong, Pal!! Read the Bible of LAI (Indonesia Bible Society) edition or more impressing read the original version of Greek.

But if you can read only Batak language or Javanese or another language in Indonesia they are available: an official Bible in many languages. If you want to know clearly go into LAI or SABDA sites. Or if you want to see Bible of many version from Hebrew era till satellite era just look at e-sword sites.

Ever read this verse?

Act 19:6 GNB:
" Paul places his hands on them, and the Holy Spirit came upon them; they
spoke in strange tongues and also proclaimed God's message".

Or this verse

1 Cor 12:8-11 GNB:
"1Co 12:8 The Spirit gives one person a message full of wisdom,
while to another person the same Spirit gives a message full of knowledge.

1Co 12:9 One and the same Spirit gives faith to one person,
while to another person he gives the power to heal.

1Co 12:10 The Spirit gives one person the power to work miracles; to another, the gift of speaking God's message; and to yet another, the ability to tell the difference between gifts that come from the Spirit and those that do not. To one person he gives the ability to speak in strange tongues, and to another he gives the ability to explain what is said.

1Co 12:11 But it is one and the same Spirit who does all this; as he wishes,
he gives a different gift to each person. ".

Or this verse

1 Cor 12:28 GNB :
"In the church God has put all in place: in the first place apostles, in the second place prophets, and in the third place teachers; then those who perform miracles, followed by those who are given the power to heal or to help others or to direct them or to speak in strange tongues".

Have you read? Not yet, hmmm.... it's ok. From now on please read the Bible, would you? Don't listen to the preaching from your pastor only. It's good, if he is true. What about if the pastor come from deviating stream flow (ideology)

My loving brother/ sister don't worry for everything had happened. From now on try to understand each other. The author knows & realizes that there are some cases in which people speak with strange tongues, apparently not comes from the Holy Spirit but from deviating Spirit.

And for brothers of charismatic, don't be proud if you speak in strange tongues, because some retarded tribes in Africa when they do their ritual ceremony, they speak with 'strange tongues'. But this strange tongue comes from Aunt Lucy (fer).

Let's say for these two church communities “Put all things to the test ", asks God, don't trust anybody but GOD.

Oh brothers/ sisters, God loves all of us. We are special to be adopted as 'God's children', not because our flesh/ blood nor our good deed, but because the sacrifice of JESUS on the Cross.

Are you and I going to crucify Jesus for the second time?